My Very Own Mustang Buildup

[69stang]

Well I have a 1969 Mustang Coupe with the I6 200 ci engine and 4 speed tranny.

I have decided to go the unusual route and keep the six, especially after looking around at fordsix.com forums.

So the plan:
-Carb swap to 350 cfm Holley 2V (officially started, the adaptor they sell needed some "modification" to get the right fit.
-Turbocharged, I have been doing alot of reading on this, going to do a blow through setup, still have to read a bunch of compressor maps etc.
-Aluminum Heads, officially out, they look really exciting!
-T5 swap gas mileage and ability to get the power to the wheels
-Disc Brake/Power Rack n Pinion

Goals: 300 hp, 25+ MPG (when driving nicely), good handling.


Thoughts/comments/etc?

[70Mach03]

Sounds like a cool idea and concept, go for it. You won't see many others like it. :yes:

[mustangmanny]

I like it. send some pictures when you get a chance:punk:

[coz]

I think there was a 6 cyclinder write up a couple of months ago in Mustang Monthly. If I remember correctly it was 300+ HP and very solid. Lots of chrome and bling....

I had a 200cid in my 69 convertible and it caught a wheel and cruised nicely at 75mph. Wish I still had that car - it was perfect....

[69stang]

I will post pictures as soon as the carb is installed .. do it step by step =).

And turbocharging it should work great with this engine =).

A nice chrome valve cover and an engine dress up kit and it should look shiny and niceeee.

[Protowrxs]

There is an uber awesome sounding 6 video floating around the boards and the Internet somewhere... I can't find the link right now. :-( Will post when I find it.
-Stephen

[Pakrat]

I think that might be one I posted a long time ago in the garage, I'lls ee if I can find it.

I personally think the 250 makes a better candidate all around for what you want to do especially with 5 lugs already but I'll be eager to follow along on your progress and see what the results are for sure.

[Pakrat]

Is this the one you were talking about Stephen?
http://www.1969stang.com/mustang/forum/showthread.php?t=1707&highlight=video

While searching for that I came across one of my favorite old online games too:innocent: :
http://www.milbestlight.com/swf/game/game1.swf

[69stang]

haha thats a great game. As far as the 200 vs 250, theres a few reasons for sticking to the 200.

"The 250's taller deck and longer stroke are a disadvantage because they limit revs. Risk of engine failure becomes higher with the 250"

That and I already have a 200 c.i. car =)

I realize the 200 will be slightly disadvantaged compared to the 250, but for my goals it will more then cover it.

The positive reactions encourage me to do this =), should be a showstopper at car shows.

[69stang]

well it is delayed a bit cause today a dog decided to bite into my hand leaving me with 5 stitches in my hand.

[69stang]

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v111/175/17/31508464/n31508464_31038703_3049.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v111/175/17/31508464/n31508464_31038704_3295.jpg


New Carb and Monte Carlo bar in(were like 95% done in these pictures), I got the grabatrack suspension which hopefully will be going in next weekend

[69stang]

Rear Suspension went in today.
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/175/17/31508464/n31508464_31061129_73.jpg
The Right side
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/175/17/31508464/n31508464_31061130_333.jpg


The Left Side
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/175/17/31508464/n31508464_31061127_9493.jpg

How it sits

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/175/17/31508464/n31508464_31061128_9807.jpg

The old suspension minus one leaf


Overall, it went great, had no problems. Sits a little higher than I expected (about 2 inches higher than before, but back to stock height). The old shocks were EXTREMELY shot, there should be a HUGE difference in ride. Its the GrabAtrak 4 1/2 leaf standard eye.

[Pakrat]

That should make a huge difference and you can alwasy add some 2" lowering blocks real easy if you want to drop it back down.

[69stang]

ya, I figure I can lower it back down if i want to. But, I want to get some rims, and I will go a little bigger, and will have some extra room for actual rubber on the rim.

[69stang]

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/175/17/31508464/n31508464_31076093_1787.jpg
The new Export bar.
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/175/17/31508464/n31508464_31076092_1472.jpg
Another Angle
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/175/17/31508464/n31508464_31076094_2079.jpg
Couldn't really get a good angle but thats the new sway bar, new end links and bushings =). 1" replacing the 11/16th one.

[zumer69]

I have a 69 fastback with a 250...I was goint to swap it for a 302, buuut no way now. I met a girl from chicago with a highly modified 200. She had headers and a freaking 4 barrel...oh my did that car sound awesome.

[burritoboi5]

The 6 cyls can be fun cars when prepped properly. Go for it and start a project buildup

[Pakrat]

So are you just test fitting all these parts on right now or are you leaving all the surrounding areas worn, dirty and rusty?

[Infinity]

Can you tell me what size wheels and tires you are running and then take a measurement from the ground to the fender front and back? I know that is a lot to ask, but I have a 250 6 and am looking to put in a grab a track as well. I am curious how much sag I have now in the suspension.

I am thiking I will do the mid eye or rolled eye leaf and look to do the shelby drop for the front.

Thanks!

Josh

[69stang]

Ok, a couple responses I have to get to here.

Zumer, If you want to learn about the I6, check out Fordsix.com. The first thing they will tell you to do is buy the Falcon Six Performance book.
http://falconperformance.sundog.net/

It is a good book, it is getting a little outdated now with the new parts coming out from ClassicInlines.com.

Pakrat- Things are going on as is now, but alot more parts are being replaced as I have the time and the money (even when working full time, college kids don't have lots of $ haha).
If you see anything in particular that needs replacing please tell me because this is my first project. The engine itself will look much different after I start doing all the work on the engine (Aluminum head, alloy valve cover, alloy intake etc.)

Infinity - Yes I will check, it will be a couple days because It is jacked up right now I am doing a front disk brake swap, but I will do it no problem for you.

[Infinity]

Thanks! I am pretty sure I am going to do the reverse eye and the shelby drop at the same time so it will sit lower. Mine looks like your car did before you put the suspension stuff on. I am just worried that with the 6 cyl the front will still sit too high :) It is so hard to tell what you get until you bolt it on.

Josh

[69stang]

Yea it's tough sometimes, I personally don't mind my car being a little higher, I can always add lowering blocks (I know its not as good of a route as the mid-eye). I figure I want to get some bigger rims, but like some rubber on it to make it ride nice.

[Infinity]

I am used to cars with very low profile tires and like the handeling benefits. That is why I don't mind starting a little lower. I will need to talk to the grab-a-trac people though to make sure that if I go with a reverse eye, their 1" lower spring, and a 1" shelby drop that the car will sit with the nose down a touch. If not, I can do more than 1" on the shelby drop (I am also going to get the opentracker a arm and control arms which allow up to 1 3/4 drop). I don't want to punch any more holes into the car then I need to though!

Josh

[69stang]

Just so you know the shelby drop doesnt actually give 1" of drop. I believe it is more like 1/4-1/2 inch.

Yea I suggest talking to them, they will know much better than I do.

We should start a gallery of 69's with different combinations and their stances.

It would be REALLY helpful to look at when trying to decide parts.

[bnickel]

yeah the 1" drop will only lower the car about 1/4", the main purpose of the drop is not to lower the car as it is to improve the suspension geometry (camber curve specifically), the 1-3/4" drop will improve the geometry even more and asl lower the car more probably around 3-4" or so, maybe a full 1" but i don't think it is quite that far.