1969 Mustang Supersite Web Forums 1969 Mustang Supersite Web Forums


Go Back   1969 Mustang Supersite Web Forums > Technical, General Discussion, and Project Progress > 1969-70 Technical Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-30-2010, 04:37 PM   #1
Quick_R2
Mustang Addict...
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 30
Quick_R2 is on a distinguished road
Default 351C vs 351W clutch equalizer bar (Z-bar) differences

Hello - I'd love to hear some folks chime in with the differences between a 351W and 351C equalizer bar. I know for sure that they are different based on the two different part numbers, but I'm interested to know the physical differences between the two bars for 69/70 Mustangs (and Cougars).

Thanks for your help,
Scott
Quick_R2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2010, 06:46 PM   #2
SlimeGold 69
MusthaveMustdriveMustang
 
SlimeGold 69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 668
SlimeGold 69 is on a distinguished road
Default

Well I don't know 100% sure but I think they are the same if not very close. I have put Clevelands in place of 302's and 351W's before and used all the original Windsor block clutch bars on Clevelands. The different part number may be from just a slight production change like one hole a bit bigger or a change in angle to reduce pedal effort but that's just a guess. Maybe some one will have one of each for a real comparison. It may also have to do with the length of the main bar and I never noticed.
__________________
1969 63B LimeGold Sportsroof. 306, 5 speed, 9 inch 3.50 trac-lok.
SlimeGold 69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2010, 07:53 PM   #3
Fordrevhead
RebuildN,RaceN & RockN
 
Fordrevhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Adirondacks of NY
Posts: 1,687
Fordrevhead is on a distinguished road
Default ebay ad supports Slime...

this guys ad says:

1969-1970 MUSTANG 351 EQUALIZER BAR


New reproduction C9ZZ-7528AR equalizer bar for a 351W and 351C. Applications include 1969, 1970 Ford Mustang.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...251510010r1319
__________________
...FRH

2011 GT/CS
1970 Coupe
1964.5 Coupe
Fordrevhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2010, 08:30 PM   #4
RacerX
v8 powered poster
 
RacerX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dayton, Oh
Posts: 695
RacerX is on a distinguished road
Default

I used the same one when I went from the 351W to the 351C. Don't know if its the original piece to the original 302 though.
__________________
Roger

Freedom Of Speed

69 hardtop under construction
351C 4V
http://s231.photobucket.com/albums/e...stang%20stuff/
RacerX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2010, 11:51 AM   #5
Quick_R2
Mustang Addict...
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 30
Quick_R2 is on a distinguished road
Default

I don't doubt that the two original designs (351W vs 351C) could possibly interchange, however I'm just trying to identify which one of these it is that I have. Below are the part numbers that I found for the 69 351W and 70 351C via the West Coast Classic Cougar online parts catalog:

351W: C9ZZ-7528-A
351C: D0ZZ-7528-D

I'll probably wind up calling them tomorrow to figure out the differences.

Thanks again for your help.
-Scott
Quick_R2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2010, 12:18 PM   #6
Mach1Rider
Ol school Fool
 
Mach1Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Toutle Wa
Posts: 1,121
Mach1Rider is on a distinguished road
Default

If I recall, the C bars have a offset bend at the lower hole for the rod to fork to allow clearence for the exhaust.
The W ones are straight downward bend.
Mach1Rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2010, 05:48 PM   #7
Quick_R2
Mustang Addict...
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 30
Quick_R2 is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks for the help - I think you just solved the million dollar question! As it turns out, I just discovered tonight that I have one of each of these - (351W & 351C). It's just not right though - I'm too young to forget about parts that I've picked up over the years... Thanks again for the info.

-Scott
Quick_R2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2012, 11:22 PM   #8
Burn
v8 powered poster
 
Burn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 598
Burn is on a distinguished road
Default

Scott, can you please post pictures comparing the two. I'm swapping a 351W with a 351C and was going to reuse my 351W zbar. Where exactly is the differance between the two? Thanks. Jim
__________________
Jim
1970 Mach 1 Clone
351w, 4-speed, 9" w/ 3.70 trac-loc


My Project Pix's (last updated 3.20.11)

My Progress Thread (last updated 3.15.11)
Burn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2012, 06:15 AM   #9
RacerX
v8 powered poster
 
RacerX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dayton, Oh
Posts: 695
RacerX is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quick_R2 View Post
I don't doubt that the two original designs (351W vs 351C) could possibly interchange, however I'm just trying to identify which one of these it is that I have. Below are the part numbers that I found for the 69 351W and 70 351C via the West Coast Classic Cougar online parts catalog:

351W: C9ZZ-7528-A
351C: D0ZZ-7528-D

I'll probably wind up calling them tomorrow to figure out the differences.

Thanks again for your help.
-Scott
Jim,

As Scott pointed out they have the same base part number, different revision (A for the 69 part & D for the 70 part). It was probably changed for the cleveland and superceded the windsor part for windsor motors. I would think adding a strategically placed kink/bend would work. Mine still has the windsor part and I did have clearance issues on the bottom end when I put the C in but its all apart again now.
__________________
Roger

Freedom Of Speed

69 hardtop under construction
351C 4V
http://s231.photobucket.com/albums/e...stang%20stuff/

Last edited by RacerX; 05-23-2012 at 06:17 AM..
RacerX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2012, 08:04 AM   #10
redmach69
Mustang Owner
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 60
redmach69 is on a distinguished road
Default

So did anyone ever determine if they are the same or different, it sounds like a windsor bar will work but you have to bend the lower arm? I have gotten rid of my headers and now the z bar that was on the car (which does not look like a 69 windsor bar, is hitting the exhaust, and I would like to know what is best to buy.
Thanks
redmach69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.